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in on these fiscal cliff talks. here is "the new york times" -- in the "financial times" this morning -- roger altman writing today in "the financial times." president obama will be meeting with several governors today at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff. they will be meeting this morning around 10:00 a.m. eastern time, and then the governors are slated to hold a news conference at around 11:30 a.m. eastern time. go to our website for more details. washington insiders tackle fiscal cliff policy solutions. the group will hold a roundtable discussion today on the importance of reform to address the nation's debt and deficit spending this event takes place this morning around 8:30 a.m. eastern time. go to our website for all our coverage of the fiscal cliff talks. we have a web site set up so you can follow along on our special page for these fiscal cliff talks. back to your phone calls. good morning, doris. caller: good morning. the plan that the republicans offered, this is just the romney-ryan plan that the american voters said no to. other than destroying our earned benefit, i do not c
the fiscal cliff. that's the hill newspaper. here's politico this morning, inside the talk, fiscal cliff deal emerging is what some write this morning. and that's from politico this morning. first call up on our question this morning, g.o.p. says address the spending problem and in silver spring, maryland, democrat, good morning anne. caller: yes, well i would like the g.o.p. to be a little more specific because all of them who signed the pledge they want to slink government. i listen to c-span. they're so upset about ben gauzey, which they should be upset about, they don't take into account that the state department has a shoestring budget. people are very upset about the compounding, but the f.d.a. operates on a shoestring budget because they have been shrinking government. host: so anne, do you see room for cut? caller: yes, i see room for budget cuts in the defense department. i'm a senior citizen facing retirement, and i really do believe in some means testing for social security. it's an insurance program. and there are people, you're just like with your health insurance, if you're real
. >>> rejected. the gop snubs the white house's opening offer in fiscal cliff talks. >>> upgraded palestine celebrates a new status despite stiff american opposition. >>> rich and now famous. we know the identity of one of those lucky power ball jackpot winners. >> that's good news. >> can't wait to meet that person. >> good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. it's friday. >> happy friday. john berman is hosting "starting point" at 7:00. the middle east is getting ugly. insult and finger pointing in the fiscal cliff debate. tax rates spike and spending slashed. congress is breaking for the holidays in two weeks. it could send the economy spinning in directions. $1.6 trillion in tax hikes. he will travel to pennsylvania to sell it to you. republicans aren't buying it. listen to house speaker, john boehner. >> despite the claims the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. >> democrats are firing right back at boehner. harry reid getting a little personal. >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him
cliff talks. kayla is live with that. >> reporter: a little bit of movement potentially. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone yesterday as democrats and republicans continue to dig their heels in over this budget standoff. there's been no announcement of any new face the face talks as lawmakers try to reach a deal to avoid the so called fiscal cliff in january. treasury secretary tim geithner tells cnbc republicans have made a little progress, but the obama administration is "absolutely ready to go over the cliff if the gop doesn't agree to raise tax rates on wealthy americans." apple has lost a bit of its shine. the tech giant stock suffering its worst day in four years on thursday. several factors may have been at play. investors worried apple may be giving up ground in the tablet market to rivals, while nokia beat the company to the punch. there are also unconfirmed reports a stock clearinghouse firm is reducing the margin requirements on apple stock. apple lost $35 billion in market value yesterday. to put that into perspective, there are 417 companies listed
of the congress are getting out of town. tracie potts has more on the stalling fiscal cliff talks. >> reporter: lawmakers getting out of washington today while they can. >> eric cantor, house republicans talk about forcing members to be in town through the christmas holiday if a deal is not done before then. >> leave us alone! >> reporter: these are some of the frustrated constituents they will face on what can happen if social security jobs are cut. >> it's going to be backlogged and disability is going to skyrocket. processing time is going to skyrocket. lines out the door in our offices. >> reporter: they get advice when economists testify. plus, more fallout from what the treasury secretary tells cnbc could happen if there's no deal. >> administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. >> reporter: there's one small sign of progress. a republican source says president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone. >> we need a response from the white house. we can't negotiate with ourselves. >> the hold upright now is that speaker boehner took a position, i think th
across the board. joining us now to talk fiscal cliff and ramifications for all of us around here in the d.c. area, virginia congress member gerry connolly, a democrat representing annandale, parts of prince herndon county, fairfax, welcome, sir. we know the arguments by now, very familiar. the president wants to cut off the tax cuts for everybody making over a quarter million. john boehner and the house republicans would rather see deductions and hoop holes closed. why are you? are you with the president wholeheartedly on this? >> well, i certainly agree with the president that we need to let the top tax bracket expire. he ran explicitly on that. there weren't a lot of explicits in this presidential campaign, but that was one of them. i think it ought to be open to negotiation what the income threshold is. the president laid out 250. i think there's maneuverability there. i think that's probably too low. >> is there maneuverability on the percentage? could it be 37 or 38? >> i think he has signaled that he's willing to negotiate on that, but the republicans have simply said no ta
're going to have a look at republicans and the fiscal cliff negotiations with radio talk-show host and columnist armstong williams. that is coming up next as we continue the "washington journal." ♪ >> why a writers institute? i think it is very important within the culture. we are a culture of words, of voices. words are key to our imagination, our capacity to envision things. we ourselves are not completely tied to print on the page. but i think that there is no other art form so readily accessible other than perhaps -- but it is something -- there is something in literature that captures the humans. . >> this weekend, we look behind the scenes at the history and literary life of new york's capital city, albany, on c-span to and it c-span3. span3.c- [bell rings] >> this weekend on c-span3, follow harry truman's eldest grandson to hiroshima. >> everybody has their own view of what happened. survivalant to argue or about the history. i think we are past that. my goal for behing here is to honor the dead nand listen to the living and do what i can to ensure this does not happen aga
fiscal cliff that people are talking about? what about the danger of another recession, an economic slowdown? automakers are saying that they are prepared for that because they've got a better mix of cars this time. and they are pushing full bore ahead with new technology. we spoke with sprint, which is introducing a package to automakers that will actually turn your car into a wireless hot spot. enabling passengers to surf the internet. enabling you if your teenager is driving the car to make sure no one is texting while they're driving. they're going full steam ahead. let's listen. >> so imagine, if you will, you're driving the family to the summer vacation home. right? your wife could be paying bills via her laptop or tablet in the front seat. your kids could be youtubing or facebooking in the back seat, downloading a movie off netflix. everyone is happy including the driver not having to stop every 15 minutes to go to the bathroom. the kids are focused on what they want to do so the entire consumer experience in the vehicle is enhanced. >> and it's not all about practicality. ne
will cut 11,000 workers worldwide. other banks will have cuts next year as well. let's talk fiscal cliff. the median prediction is 1.5 million jobs may be lost next year including 110,000 in the defense industry if lawmakers fail to come up with an agreement soon. let's talk about the rivalry between twitter and facebook. twitter says users are experiencing issues with viewing instagram photographs. facebook looking at purchasing the service, driving traffic to its own website. a 13-year-old girl thinks the classics easy-bake oven should be marketed to boys as well. and wonder bread/host this may have a buyer -- hostess. >> we will talk to you soon. still to come, an online business has turned into a court battle in fairfax county. >> and a boost for those >> president obama has declared d.c. a disaster area, opening up federal money to help cover emergency work and repairs from the storm. and to protect against future disasters. chris christie expected to be in d.c. today pressing for more aid following hurricane sandy. the new jersey governor wants full federal reimbursement for some s
over the fiscal cliff talks. now republicans and democrats can't even agree on where things stand. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks. >> and you know there is progress. >> treasury secretary tim geithner sat down with bipartisan congressional leaders to keep pushing for a deal. a top boehner aide said the plan geithner presented is, quote, completely unrealistic. and a top democratic aide said republicans have taken to screaming at them. if no action is taken by december 31st, 650 billion in cuts to the pentagon and domestic programs and tax increases automatically go into effect. after the meeting, the finger-pointing came quickly. republicans say democrats aren't bringing to the table a plan that include significant cuts to medicare and entitlement programs. >> revenue was only on the table. if they were serious. spending cuts. >> the white house drew its own line in the sand and said tax rates must go up on the top earners, but -- >> the middle-class tax cut should be made permanent. >> president obama stayed out of the fiscal cliff discussions and sat down
if the country goes over the fiscal cliff. on capitol hill lawmakers are talking about the consequences of taxes going up. danielle nottingham has the latest for wjz from washington. >> lawmakers are getting an earful about why they need to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> you have to nail this down. uncertainty you is -- is killing us. >> top economists came to talk about it. president obama and john boehner spoke wednesday but publicly are holding firm on their positions. the white house has made clear the country could go over the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. republican leaders say they will close loopholes and eliminate tax breaks to raise money but insist that bush era tax cuts must be extended for all americans. the stan stand -- stand off and the debt concerns ryan skenke. he's the guidancing with the cochair of the president's deficit commission alan simpson. the group is working to get young people involved in fixing the debt crisis. >> we're trying to connect with our generation in a different way. we're using humor to hook them in and get th
virginia family today to put a face on the so-called fiscal cliff. tonight we talked with that family that's now in the national spotlight. >>> a well-known senator handed in his resignation today. >>> a few minutes ago the
have been a policy areas of the fiscal cliff talks. today the alternative minimum tax. hope i said that a. >> guest: something that was passed in the 1960s to animate a small group of high income individuals that were not paying any taxes. it did not have an inflation adjustment, so now the group has grown enormously and we assume in a budgeting sense the way we budget that this revenue will come in. it's not going to comment because if we allow the text if you can look at tens of millions of america. so we fixed it. i would hope in the next year we could have a permanent fix to get it out of the budgetary budget. same thing with what is called sgr, sustainable growth with medicare and medicaid. we patched these things over. let's figure out a way to get it out of the budgeting process so numbers can be something they can project forward realistically. >> host: is this a big deal? >> guest: it is. if we were to not get it then it would be a big deal. we raise taxes on millions of americans overnight. this is one of those things they don't take about because we never let it happen.
-called fiscal cliff. the president and republican leaders came out tough today with some tough talk about the other side's plan. fox 5s tom fitzgerald was following the story. 26 more days to go on this. >> reporter: time is running out, shawn. involving a white house and top gop officials were both out talking a lot today about the need to strike a fiscal cliff deal and what they were doing is tacking with each other, with no new talks scheduled between the major players in the debate and the speaker of the house finds himself defending his own plans for members of his own party. in northwest d.c., president obama is on the hard sell trying to convince a group of business executives to support raising taxes on the wealthy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up the top 2%, and that includes all of you, yes? >> reporter: saying a fiscal cliff deal must include new revenues. the president pushed his plan to raise taxes on household earning over $250,000 a year. >> and i am here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> reporter: john boehner has a hard sell of his own w
, it is a friday morning and this is not a game. words from john bain other as we get react on fiscal cliff talks that exploded in the open. saying that it reads like a democratic wish-list and could plunge the economy back into recession. oh joy. welcome here. i'm bill hemmer. live in "america's newsroom.". martha: good morning, bill. bill: we'll find the silver lining in this, aren't we? martha: we are. bill: that is our quest. martha: i'm martha maccallum. here are the basics when they put forth through tim geithner yesterday from the president. 1.6 trillion in new taxes. that is the opening part of the deal. 50 billion in new stimulus spending. we already had a lot of backlash in stimulus in previous packages. this is interesting element here. new executive power to raise the debt limit. that is what caused so many of these discussions because they bump up against the debt limit and not be able to go back this. there is executive power plea to be able to do that without going back to confess. republicans are saying where is the balance? where is the spending cut side of the equation. the pres
@alexwit. >>> apparent progress in the so-called fiscal cliff talks. it appears both sides may be digging in their heels. nbc's mike viqueira joins me from the white house with the very latest. if there's anything new to report. seems like everyone is in their own separate corners, mike. >> reporter: it's no longer november. this is december 1st. it's a new month, the last month before we go over the fiscal cliff. now both sides after a lot of bipartisan talk of compromise in that post-election period, alex, it turns out what we have now a typical washington standoff. >> the president of the united states. >> reporter: visiting a toy factory outside philadelphia, the president urged congress to act and avoid the fiscal cliff. if not, he says, taxes go up for everyone, including the middle class. >> it's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> reporter: with the election over the president has begun a new kind of campaign, for votes in congress. a series of white house meetings with business leaders, a grassroots effort on twitter, and friday's t
of refusing to talk specifics about how to avoid the fiscal cliff. the two sides traded charges of bad faith as year-end tax hikes and spending cuts moved another day closer. on the face of it there seemed to be little movement today. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> sreenivasan: treasury secretary timothy geithner and legislative chief rob nabors arrived at the capitol this morning, for meetings with congressional leaders. house speaker john boehner also spoke to president obama on the phone last night. he said he wanted to know where the administration would rein in spending, but that he had heard nothing new. >> i was hopeful we'd see a specific plan for cutting spending. we sought to find out today what the president is really willing to do. listen, i remain hopeful that productive conversations in the days ahead can be had but the white house has to get serious. >> sreenivasan: senate minority leader mitch mcconnell echoed that complaint. in a statement, he said, "today, they took a step backward and
different direction from the fiscal cliff and talk more about long-term and medium-term economic realities we face. in your written testimony to this committee, you warned against kicking the can down the road in definitely because of the adverse effect that might have on the economy. the medium and long-term impact it might have. i thought your analysis was definitely something we need to pay attention to. as you observed in the failure to make progress in this area now could signal that we have bigger troubles ahead. thatoody's analytics model you used breaks down about 2028. the reason it does that because at that point, the interest on our national debt will start to cripple our economy. we will be left without much recourse. i'm not sure there is a tax increase on the planet that could suddenly fix that. i'm not sure we could print money fast enough. if we did, we would go the way of argentina. i tend to think of this medium and long term risk as the fiscal avalanche. the cliff is something we are approaching now and we can see where is this. we know will hit the cliff. the avalanche
. john boehner said there has been no substantive progress in the fiscal cliff talks. >> whose fault is that. >> stephanie: yes, they have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. it's the same kind of rhetoric, isn't it? >> caller: i guess the election is not over. >> stephanie: yeah yeah, yeah. that seems to be the critical thing. they don't seem to realize that the american people have spoken. >> caller: i think everyone is trying to position himself here to get down to brass tacks which is what is going to happen before you go into oblivion. i'm not surprised with what is going on. the president made a proposal yesterday. $1.6 trillion in revenues which included $960 billion in raising marginal rates. we want the president to keep his promise. that's what the elections are all about. >> stephanie: that's right. we were just reading the latest "washington post" "abc news" poll and it echos the exit polls. 61% want those to pay their fair share, and 70% don't want them to raise the social security medicare eligibility rate. >> that's not the problem raising the rates on the wel
day closer. we're talking about this every day about the fiscal cliff and yet major players are still not sitting down to talk. >> but there was some encouraging news yesterday. president obama and house speaker john boehner did speak on the telephone. right now, though, there's no evidence any future negotiations are scheduled. a new poll by the associated press shows 48% of those asked support letting tax cuts expire january 1 for those earning more than $250,000 a year. but extending them for everyone else. >> just 32% think the cuts should be extended across the boards. >> at 6:37 rchtion it's time for -- at 6:37, it's time for another your money report. >> jessica doyle is talking about the real possibility we actually will indeed go over the cliff. >> they say good things come to those who wait except maybe in the case of the fiscal cliff. timothy geithner said the administration will absolutely take the leap. but some say both sides could wait till january to get down to business without any big economic consequences. the expiration of the bush tax cuts forcing tax rates higher
that so-called fiscal cliff. but on capitol hill, talks there have pretty much hit an impasse at this point. neither republicans nor democrats seem willing to budge on the issue of tax rates for the wealthy. unless the two sides can reach some kind of deal, spending cuts and also tax hikes will collectively take effect starting january 1st. the clock is ticking. >> it is. >>> the united nations has overwhelmingly approved recognition of a palestinian state, a move staunchly opposed by the u.s. and israel. >> but in the west bank and gaza, palestinians, they celebrated on the streets. the historic vote upgrades palestine to nonmember nonvoting observer status only. meanwhile, u.s. ambassador, susan rice, she denounced the resolution. saying, quote, it's counterproductive to the goal of mideast peace. >> and the palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed, save that the prospects of a durable peace have only receded. >> rice added that the u.s. will continue to stand up against every effort that seeks to undermine israel's security
the potential fiscal cliff that everyone is talking about. he is smiling. today the president and republican lawmakers publicly bashed each other on their plans for a deal. the details are ahead. a man with a big heart. a santa costume and a lot of $100. a lost them. he is bringing early holiday cheer to super storm sandy victims. that is ahead unless breaking news changes everything. this is "studio b." first from fox at 3:00 in new york city we met the family that held one of the winning tickets to the record-breaking $588 million powerball jackpot. cindy hill bought the ticket in dearborn, missouri, population 500, half hour north of kansas city but she held off on checking the numbers. >> i didn't find out until the next day after i took my daughter to school and i want by to sigh the numbers. i got back in the car and i didn't have my glasses and i was, like, anying is that the right number? is that the right number? i was shaking, i called my husband and i said i think i am having a heart attack. >>shepard: i want a divorce. her husband, a mechanic, said he needed to seat winning ticke
signs of some serious talking when it comes to taking care of the fiscal cliff. >> jessica doyle is here with more on the growing fears about what could happen if the stop signs aren't thrown up in time. >> good morning to both of you. we continue to see the situation play out like a high stakes game of chicken. the white house is saying publicly it will let the nation go over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't fall in line with the president's demands to raise taxes on the rich. the g.o.p. is pointing fingers, too. you don't have to look too hard in washington these days to see the fiscal cliff theater. >> nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> our goal is to make sure it gets solved. >> the president is ready, willing and able, waiting to be able to sit down and seriously negotiate this. but they have to be willing to come to the table with specifics. >> the next 72 hours are critical. if he sits back and continues to play politics, that will give your answer where we're going. >> some lawmakers are actually going back home to their districts. congress has little scheduled b
the fiscal cliff. lawmakers have until december 31st to reach a deal to avoid dramatic tax heights and budget cuts. the president wants higher taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year. to make up $1.6 trillion in 10 years. republicans want to close loopholes, make half as much money and not raise taxes. >>> businessman greg hall files an appeal. neither should get the seat. the democratic central committee has nominated hall to replace alston. the judge ruled that governor omaley will pick the next one. >> a court battle between a home contractor and an unhappy customer. a judge in fairfax county has ordered a woman, the homeowner, to remove parts of her posts on yelp and on angie's list. jane perez is the homeowner. she complained about repairs. she also claimed that some of her jewelry disappeared while the contractor had the only other key to her home. the contractor is named christopher dietz. the judge says that the woman's po posts about her jewelry goes too far and she has to remove that part of her accusation. >> people have a right to write a review that's honest and truthful
to falling off the fiscal cliff this morning. while the major players are still not sitting down to talk, there's some good news believe it or not this morning. here is suzanne mcginnis. >> social security workers marched outside they're office in baltimore wednesday. they're protesting the governments cuts to kick in at the end of the year. sdmrsz -- >> we don't want to see our public hurt. >> just down the road in washington dc the stand off continues. house speaker john boehner said he's still waiting for president obama to make his next counter offer to the republican plan he rejected. >> i'm going to need a response from the white house. we can't negotiate with ourselves. >> the president and boehner spoke on the phone wednesday. republicans want more. >> we want to sit down with the president. we want to talk specifics. >> whether the talks happen on the phone or in person here at capitol hill or at the white house there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes. >> i'm obsession to raise taxes is not going to solve the problem. >> timothy gitner said the white house is willing
the information. >>> deadlock, that's how people on capitol hill are describing the talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama and john boehner did speak on the issue today, but the results of that conversation not public. the white house has now asked federal agencies to plan for more than $100 billion in cuts. that's what happens if the issue is not resolved by december 31st. >> we've got to cut spending and i believe it's appropriate to put revenues on the table. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%. that includes all of you, yes? >> president obama speaking to business leaders when he made that comment today at the white house. insists he will veto any bill that does not include tax increases on wealthier americans. >>> coming up an online shopping horror story, a maryland woman's story may convince you to read the fine print. >> last night we were around 60 degrees most places at this hour. tonight we're some 20 degrees colder than that. i'll let you know how low it gets overnight and if we'll see more warm air on the horizon, but get ready for a chilly overnight. th
that created it. >> bill: sure. they're the ones who brought us to the fiscal cliff as we were talking yesterday because their super committee failed to do its job and now we have the sequestration hanging over our heads. >> they constantly create a situation, try to blame obama. >> bill: kevin, do you think we dare say look, hold the line and if you don't raise rates on the top 2%, we're not going to make a deal? >> absolutely. hold the line. i'll gladly pay more taxes than to have some rich son of a bitch pay more. >> bill: you and me both. that's all right. i'm willing to do it. i am a patriotic millionaire. i ought to -- i should join the club. thanks, kevin for the call. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." which was just as you say -- maybe it was starve the beast. i'll look it up during the break. going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party o
cliff to virginia today. he visited a home in fall's church to talk with one family about how ending the bush-era tax cuts for the middle class would affect them. the high school teacher tiffany santana shares the house with her parents, her husband and her son. she recently contacted the white house about how paying $2,200 more in taxes would hurt them financially. >> if this family has a couple of thousand dollars left to spend, that translates into $200 billion of less consumer spending next year and that is bad for businesses large and small. >> president obama said that he supports keeping the bush-era tax cuts for the middle class but ending them on incomes over $250,000. lawmakers have until january 1st to strike a deal. >>> just a short time ago the national christmas tree was lit. president obama and the first family joined a star-studded cast to help usher in the holiday season. sue palka was there and joins us live tonight from the ellipse. hi, sue. >> reporter: you're catching me at a perfect time. we're into the entertainment. we ju
with the president at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff and other issues affecting their states before coming to the mikes to address their concerns. >> i think we all recognize that there's an impact on our states, certainly, by what happens here. >> we want to be a part of the solution to the problems facing our nation. >> we also are saying that states are willing to do our part. we understand it's going to be a shared sacrifice as you have to look at spending cuts. states are willing to do more with less. >> while the national dialog is focused on the fiscal cliff which has the potential to significantly affect state budgets many governors are also tackling the implementation of obama care. starting in 2014 medicaid will be expanded to all americans within 138% of the poverty line, which is individuals making $15,000 a year or less, give health care to as many as 21 million additional americans. eight governors including one of those at the white house today, oklahoma republican governor mary fallin are rejecting the offer, concerned their states may have to foot the bill down the
revenue, this fiscal cliff issue much larger. talks about the debt ceiling and what that means for next year. treasury saying that sometime early next year they will run out of those extraordinary measures and the u.s. will have to raise the debt ceiling or default. back to you. ashley: very good point. rich edson in d.c. thanks very much. tracy: our next guest says, forget taxes. washington needs to focus on cutting entitlement spending if we want to prevent a battle between old and young americans. diana further got roth, senior fellow at man hat taken institute and joins us now. diana, seems to me raising the retirement age is the simplest thing you could do yet we're not talking about that. >> well, we certainly should be because part of the deficit problem, a great part, is entitlements, social security and medicare, keep adding fiscal burdens as people's live expectancy increases and it's great that people are living longer but when social security was first thought of the life expectancy was only 67. now it is around 85. we need to raise retirement ages or somehow thinking about
. if the fiscal cliff hits and nothing changes. as you go and look at the first group of folks here, talk about people who make very little money, up to $20,000 or $20,000 to $40,000. this yellow part represents the current amount of taxes folks are paying out there. if the fiscal cliff hits and nothing changes, this group would pay about $400 more. this group down here would pay about $1,200 more. that doesn't seem like a whether or not he will lot of money, but against that kind of income it's pretty big. move to the next category. if you go to $40,000 to $64,000 in income or $64,000 to $108,000, you see the green area's much bigger. that's because there are a lot of taxpayers like this. and they're paying a fairly sizable amount. but if they're out there and the fiscal cliff goes all the way through and nothing stops it, look what's going to happen. almost $2,000 more for this group. that's what you would have to pay if you're in that group. and look down here at the other one down here, $64,000 to $108,000, $3,500 more on that. and as you move up it gets even more so. go to this group, peop
the fiscal cliff negotiations and peace in the middle east. >> is everyone okay with that? [inaudible conversations] [laughter] we are talking about what extent a middle-class tax breaks for me to middle-class families. today at 2:00 p.m., people can ask the president questions on twitter with the hash tag my 2k. after that, this come in this afternoon from the president has a bilateral meeting with the prime minister of bulgaria and this is an important relationship with bulgaria. the president will deliver a speech about 4:00 p.m. commemorating the 20th anniversary of the threat reduction program, which as you know, was authored by richard lugar. it has resulted in a regime that allows us to achieve our the president's highest priorities, and that is to secure safety around the world. it is important have to remember that when it comes to these kinds of objectives, democrats and republicans, we can come together and see very important things come and the president looks forward to this. we also want you extend our congratulations to the duke and duchess of cameras that they are expe
by the looming fiscal cliff. we've heard a lot of talk, a little progress, and several signs that this debate may go up to the last minute. >> i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> no pledge taker has voted for a tax increase. >> times have changed significantly and i care more about this country than i do about a 20-year-old pledge. >> we would certainly highlight who has kept their commitment and who hasn't. >> if the president's willing to accept 80% of the bush tax cuts for 98% of the american people, and make them permanent, i think that is a point we should agree on. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their taxes automatically go up at the beginning of next year. >> time for the president, congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they're really willing to make. >> the president has made his proposal. we need a proposal from them. >> those are the highlights. let's bring in mark murray. mark, good friday to you. negotiations started in earnest yesterday
's, virginia, earlier today, pitching his plan to end the standoff over the fiscal cliff. meantime on capitol hill, lawmakers began talking about what will and won't happen if a deal can't be reached in 25 days. tom fitzgerald is following it all. tom, the president stay on the hard sell today. >> reporter: he has, shawn. while the president has kept his distance for the most part in the face-to-face talks going behind the scenes with republicans, he spoke on the phone last night with house speaker john boehner. the spears' offer of $800 billion in new revenue is not close to the $1.2 trillion that the white house wants. the president's focus today is what will happen if no deal is reached to middle class taxpayers. president obama left the white house and headed to this house. a home in falls church where this high school teacher shares with her parents, her husband, and her son. >> this is a solvable problem. >> reporter: the trip was arranged after santana contacted the white house describe how the $2,200 more in taxes would affect her family. >> a couple thousand means a couple of months
with business leaders again today to talk about the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff. he's also claiming to call on congressional leaders to make sure we raise the debt ceiling without contention. the white house making the case that extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class is directly connected to the health of our businesses. companies need to know consumers will be able to spend and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he sticks to it. >> g.o.p. leaders aren't only dealing with the president and congressional democrats they're dealing with a split within their own ranks. more conservative republicans don't want party leaders to compromise anymore than they think they already have. even though the republican plan offers u
some compromise to avoid this moment known as the fiscal cliff. with 32 days to go until the make or break point, it is where we begin tonight with our white house correspondent kristen welker, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, president obama tried to sell his plan in the suburbs of philadelphia today. it is a tactic he thinks has worked in the past, but it did very little to sway the congressional republicans. president obama turning up the heat on republicans. >> hello, hatfield. >> reporter: taking his case for higher taxes on the wealthy to pennsylvania today. >> i don't think it is acceptable to you for just a handful of republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. >> reporter: speaking at a factory, mr. obama argued that if congress can't get a deal, taxes will rise about $2,000 average for a family. of coal you get for christmas, that is a scrooje christmas. >> let's not kid ourselves. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner balked. >> increasing tax rates draws money away from
they know is wrong. as you know, they talk about the fiscal cliff. some people say it's a slope. somebody said it was a bungi jump. somebody said it was a skate board trip, down and then up and so forth. bottom line, i think, it's no way to govern. it is a giant mistake to have all of this in a pool of ambiguity, and as i understand it now, you would know more. i mean, it truly is a stalemate. they are not talking. >> now, you point out that it's the same player, and, i think, you'll agree player that is matter most are the president, speaker boehner. what do we know about the personal relationship that might illuminate what's going on right now? >> well, they started out last year when they were working on the debt ceiling, and they had what are calledded the merlot and nicorette's meetings. in other words, boehner would have a merlot, and obama would chew nicorette. >> you point outside in the book somehow when they took the official photo, both of those vanished. >> yes. they had iced tea there for obama. of course, boehner had his seg represent, and they put the cigarette in the ashtr
at quarterback. sorry, i've just got to say it. so let's talk about the fiscal cliff. >> you don't want to stick on it? >> you want to stick on this? the thing about josh hamilton is, in the 162nd game of the year. >> yeah. >> he basically let a pop fly fall in front of him. >> yeah. >> no effort. >> the irony, of course, is that he probably has the sweetest swing and the most pure talent in baseball. and when he's on, there's no one better. i think he had a four-home run game where every ball was a line drive. it was right on the peg of the bat. if he put it all together, he would have been sitting pretty right now. >> he would have. so fiscal warnings yet to faze wall street. steve rattner, this is a good one to talk to you about with congress and the president seeming to be further and further apart. we're starting to hear well, maybe we can survive the fiscal cliff for a little while. what's going on? >> no, i don't think wall street is saying we can survive fiscal cliff. they're saying i'm not sure we're going over the fiscal cliff. right after the election wall street dropped 5% when every
of negotiations not going over the fiscal cliff. let's listen in. >> that ends up on store shelves in 30 countries is stamped made in america, and that's something to be proud of. that's something to be proud of. >> by the way, i hope the camera folks have a chance for take a look at some of the k'necs, including that flag made of them. joe biden was in costco. he wanted buy some of this stuff, but i told him he had too much work to do. i wasn't going to have him building roller coasters all day long. now, of course, santa delivers everywhere. i have been keeping my own naughty and nice list for washington, so you should keep your eye on who gets some k' necs this year. some members of congress will get them, and there will be some who don't. [ applause ] >> this is a wonderful time of year. it's been a few weeks since a long election finally came to an end, and obviously i couldn't be more honored to be back in the white house, but i'm already missing the time that i spent on the campaign visiting towns like this and talking to folks like you. >> love you. >> i love you back. you know what, one o
there could be another round of negotiations, talk to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. for the first time in days, president barack obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone about the looming fiscal cliff. so far, no word on the details of the conversation but some republican leaders are now asking for a sit-down with the president. the two sides are at a stalemate over raising taxes on incomes over $250,000 a year. 2 >>> taking a look at some of our other top stories this morning. police in fairfax county continue to investigate a scary scene at robinson secondary school in fairfax after a loaded handgun was found inside a student's locker. they insist that proper disciplinary action will be taken and that the students were never in danger. >>> a fairfax county woman is being sued by the map she hired to do handy work at her home after he says she posted negative comments about him on the web sites yelp and angie's list. the woman claimed he did poor work and stole her jewelry to boot. the contractor says the allegations are false and now he is suing her for defamation claiming
to see it in the next 48 to 72 hours. >> chuck, we are talking about the fiscal cliff here and basically, i mean, i know next to nothing about the fiscal cliff or the negotiations that are going on. is your sense that there's more going on behind the scenes than what we talk about or what's in the papers? >> you know, i love -- no. there's not. i mean -- >> you mean we're right? >> no, it's one of those -- it's amazing. i think we all assume oh, there's got to be real stuff going on. this is just -- and maybe this is an elaborate ploy, right, that the president and boehner said okay, we're going to do all this and then magically we'll bring it all together as everybody feels everything's going to heck in a handbasket. but no, there's not a lot going on sort of behind the scenes. there isn't a backroom -- yes, rob neighbors who's the chief congressional liaison for the white house, he checks in daily with boehner's and mcconnell's office, but there's not real negotiations going on like we saw in the last ten days. but i also am a little bit of -- i think everybody should just go to -- you
. each day toward the fiscal cliff is also another day closer to the country maxing out on its borrowing limits. president obama called it a dangerous lesson when he talked to business leaders today. >> the only thing that debt ceiling is good for as a weapon is to destroy your credit rating. >> reporter: he's worried republicans may refuse to raise the debt ceiling and risk defaulting on the country's loan. >> that is a bad strategy for america. it's a bad strategy for your businesses. and it is not a game that i will play. >> reporter: republicans are pushing back. >> he's the president, not the emperor. he does not have the power. >> reporter: fiscal cliff negotiations have been at a standstill since monday. not by raising rates on the rich as the president had insisted. >> we're not insisting on rates just out of spite, but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> we can't just keep borrowing money, raising taxes and expecting the problem to go away. >> reporter: house members headed home for a long weekend with democrats so far unsuccessful in their efforts to
his brain, unquote. >>> when those talks over the fiscal cliff seem to be heading towards a stalemate but do the capitol hill theatrics tell the whole story? here's thousand politico summed it up, listen to top democrats and republicans talk on camera and it sounds like they could not be further apart. but behind the scenes top officials who have been involved in the talks for many months say the contours of the deal are starting to take shape. well, joining me are jason johnson a political professor, t and a republican strategist ron bonjene, ron, let's start with you, both sides know they'll have to make a deal. one congressman says to get it there has to look like this was fighting this way it's kind of like managing the public's expectati expectations, oh, we didn't give anything, oh, we didn't either. is this rhetoric all just for the show of it? >> part of it is and part of it isn't. part of it is, you know, both sides have to stake out their territory, in any negotiation, you know, you have to show what you want, most of what you want first and then you start really negotiating
. we're talking about the so called "fiscal cliff" and our cameras have been covering all the events here in washington as both sides tried to negotiate their argument with. if you go to our web site, c- span.org, we have a special web pages at a side on the fiscal cliff and you can also send in your tweets. we will go to payton next in london, kentucky, a democrat. caller: thank you. i am one of the original baby boomers. i live in one of the poorest areas in the country, which is also heavily republican area of the country. i have always felt [indiscernible]. host: we are losing you. caller: this constant living curtailment from the republicans is a shameful way to protect the rich. host: we will leave it there. guest: he's right. our previous caller talked about he and his wife with a total income of $14,000 a year on social security, so he's right. he's not throwing money around. if you start to limit the cost of living to keep up with expenses, such as higher gas, higher rents, higher medical care,, and that makes it pretty tough. host: what are democrats willing to compromise o
thinks they know is wrong. as you know they talk about the fiscal cliff. some people say if the slope. some say it's a bungee jump. somebody says it is seascape word trip that's going to go down and up and so forth. bottom line i think it's no way to cover. it is a giant mistake to have all of this innate pool of ambiguity. as i understand it now coming due at no more. it truly is a stalemate. they're not talking. >> you point out the same players and the players who matter most are the president, speaker boehner. what do we know about the personal relationship that might eliminate what's going on right now? >> they've started out last year when they were working on the debt ceiling and they had buber called the merlot and nicorette meeting come in other words, boehner would have a merlot and obama which you nicorette. >> you point out in the boat somehow when they took the official photo, both of the spanish. >> yes, they had iced tea for obama. of course boehner had a cigarette and they put the cigarette in the ashtray away from the picture. but they haven't closed the deal on the p
the so-called fiscal cliff. >> you have to nail this down. uncertainty is killing us. >> reporter: top economists talked about the impact of tax increases and government spending cuts on the middle class. >> a couple thousand dollars, means a couple months rent for this family. >> reporter: the white house has made clear the country could go over the cliff, if republicans refused to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> for them to be burdened, unnecessarily, because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem, gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: republican leaders say they will close loopholes loopholes and eliminate tax breaks to raise money. but insist that bush-era tax cuts must be extended for all americans. >> reporter: the standoff and the country's skyrocketing debt, concerns ryan shenecki. so much so that he's the guy in the suit, dancing gangnam style with former senator allen simpson. >> i'm keeping up on this baby. >> reporter: his group, the cankicksba
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